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Summary

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• Building View
  • Library books can be reserved and brought to the library on request.
• Location of Toilet/Changing Facilities View
  • Accessible toilet facilities are located on the ground, first and second floors.
  • Female standard toilet facilities are located on the ground floor.
  • Shared standard toilet facilities are located on the ground floor.

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Rooms and Spaces Links

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• Lecture Theatre(s) View
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for GH111 please click here (new tab).
• Teaching Room(s) View
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for GH008 please click here (new tab).
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for GH012 please click here (new tab).
• Computer Room(s) View
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for GH109 - White City CAT Zone 2 - PC please click here (new tab).
• Workshop(s) View
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for White City Bench please click here (new tab).
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for White City Capture Studio please click here (new tab).
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for White City Laser please click here (new tab).
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for White City CAT Zone 1 - Mac please click here (new tab).
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for White City Digital Print Lab please click here (new tab).
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for White City Edit Suite please click here (new tab).
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for White City Laser please click here (new tab).
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for White City Motion Capture & XR Lab please click here (new tab).
  • To view the AccessAble Access Guide for White City Sound Room please click here (new tab).

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Getting Here

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• By Road View
  • The campus is located in White City to the west of London City centre.
• By Bus View
  • There is a bus stop within 150 metres of the building.
  • The nearest bus stop is White City Estate (Stop V) which serves routes 95 and 283.
    There are other nearby bus stops at White City Estate, White City Station or South Africa Road which serve routes 72, 95, 220, 228, 272 and 283.
  • For more information on Transport for London Bus Information please click here (opens new tab).
• By Train View
  • The nearest Railway Station is Shepherd's Bush.
  • The nearest station is Shepherd's Bush which is approximately 0.9 miles from the campus.
  • For more information on Shepherd's Bush please click here (opens new tab).
• By Underground View
  • The nearest underground station is White City.
  • The nearest station to the White City Campus approximately 0.5 miles away is White City Station which is on the Central Line.
  • For more information on White City Station please click here (opens new tab).
• Useful Links View
  • Transport for London Information.
  • To view the web page described above click here (opens in new tab).
  • National Rail Information.
  • To view the web page described above click here (opens in new tab).

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Useful Information

• The Royal College of Art Disability Support Service.
• To see more information on Disability Support please click here (opens new tab).
• The Royal College of Art Student support team.
• To see more information on Student Support Team please click here (opens new tab).
• Email: [email protected].
• Royal College of Art accommodation information.
• To see more information on Royal College of Art Accommodation please click here (opens new tab).
• Email: [email protected].

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Building Parking

• The building does not have its own dedicated parking.

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• On Street Parking View
  • Clearly signed and/or standard marked parking bays are available.
  • The on street standard parking bay(s) is/are located on Dorando Close.
• Drop Off Point View
  • There is not a designated drop off point.

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Outside Access (Main Entrance)

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• Entrance View
  • This information is for the entrance located at the front of the building of Dorando Road.
  • This entrance gives access to the ground floor.
  • The entrance area/door is clearly signed.
  • This entrance is signed with 'Royal College of Art Garden House'.
  • There is step-free access at this entrance.
  • There is not a canopy or recess which provides weather protection at this entrance.
  • There is a dark mat or floor marking at this entrance that might be perceived as a hole.
  • The entrance door(s) does not/do not contrast visually with its immediate surroundings.
  • There is not a bell/buzzer.
  • There is not an intercom.
  • A key card is required for access at this entrance.
  • The height of the key card reader is 100cm.
  • The main door(s) open(s) towards you (pull).
  • The exit push pad or push button is 105cm from floor level.
  • The door(s) is/are single width.
  • The door(s) is/are heavy.
  • The width of the door opening is 105cm.

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Outside Access (Media Works / Garden House Courtyard)

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• Entrance View
  • This information is for the entrance located off the Media Works / Garden House Courtyard to the rear of the building.
  • This entrance gives access to the ground floor.
  • The entrance area/door is not clearly signed.
  • There is step-free access at this entrance.
  • There is not a canopy or recess which provides weather protection at this entrance.
  • There is a dark mat or floor marking at this entrance that might be perceived as a hole.
  • The entrance door(s) does/do contrast visually with its immediate surroundings.
  • There is not a bell/buzzer.
  • There is not an intercom.
  • A key card is required for access at this entrance.
  • The height of the key card reader is 86cm.
  • The main door(s) open(s) automatically (towards you).
  • The door(s) is/are single width.
  • The width of the door opening is 100cm.
  • There is a small lip on the threshold of the entrance, with a height of 2cm or below.
• Ramp/Slope View
  • The ramp/slope is located to the left of the entrance.
  • The gradient of the ramp/slope is slight.
  • The ramp/slope is permanent.
  • There is a level landing at the top of the ramp/slope.
  • There is a/are handrail(s) at the ramp.
  • The handrail(s) is/are on the right going up the ramp.
  • The ramp/slope does bypass the step(s).
• Step(s) View
  • The step(s) is/are located in front of the entrance.
  • There is/are 6 step(s).
  • The step(s) is/are clearly marked.
  • The height of the step(s) is/are not between the recommended 15cm and 18cm.
  • The height of the step(s) is/are 18cm.
  • The depth of the step(s) is/are between 30cm and 45cm.
  • There is a/are handrail(s) at the step(s).
  • The handrail(s) is/are on both sides of the step(s).
  • Handrails are at the recommended height (90cm-100cm).
  • Handrails do cover the flight of stairs throughout its length.
  • Handrails are easy to grip.
  • Handrails do extend horizontally beyond the first and last steps.

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Reception

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• Reception View
  • The reception point is located just inside the main entrance.
  • The reception point is approximately 2m (2yd 7in) from the main entrance.
  • The reception area/desk is clearly visible from the entrance.
  • There is step-free access to the reception point.
  • There is a clear unobstructed route to the reception point.
  • There are no windows, TVs, glazed screens or mirrors at/behind the reception point which could adversely affect the ability of someone to lip read.
  • The reception counter is placed in front of a background which is patterned.
  • The lighting levels at the reception point are good.
  • The height of the reception counter is 76cm.
  • There is sufficient space to write or sign documents on the counter.
  • There is not a lowered section of the counter.
  • There is a clear knee recess beneath the counter.
  • The counter is staffed.
  • There is not a hearing assistance system at the reception point.
  • There is wayfinding signage available at/close to the reception.
  • The type of flooring in the reception area is vinyl.
• Reception Waiting Area View
  • There is not a waiting area close to the reception point.
• Security Barriers View
  • The reception is located next to the café seating which may be used as a waiting area.

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Getting Around

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• Access View
  • There is step-free access throughout the building .
• Circulation View
  • There are doors in corridors/walkways which have to be opened manually.
  • The type of flooring in corridors/walkways is carpet, vinyl and laminate.
  • There is some flooring in corridors/walkways which includes patterns or colours which could be confusing or look like steps or holes to some people.
  • There is some flooring in corridors/walkways which is shiny and could cause issues with glare or look slippery to some people.
  • There is high visual contrast between the walls and floor in all areas.
  • There is a mixture of seating with and without armrests at regular intervals.
  • The lighting levels are good.
• Signage View
  • Wayfinding signage is provided.
  • Floor plans/maps are available.
  • The colour, design and typeface of signs is consistent throughout the building.
  • Dementia friendly signage is provided.
• Audio View
  • This venue does not play background music in communal areas.
  • There is not a hearing assistance system in the communal areas of the building.
  • There are lockers for reserved library books in the corridor to the right of the building on the ground floor.
    These have heights between 20cm and 174cm.
    There is a touch screen along the corridor at heights between 110cm and 142cm.

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Eating and Drinking (Garden Café)

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• Location and Access View
  • The following information is for the café.
  • The café is located to your left after entering the building via the main entrance.
  • There is step-free access to the café.
• Service and Menus View
  • Tables cannot be booked in advance.
  • There is a counter where food and drink can be ordered.
  • Staff can bring food and/or drinks to tables.
  • Menu types include; written wall menus and menu boards.
  • Menus are clearly written.
  • Menus are presented in contrasting colours.
  • Staff can read menus to customers if requested.
  • The type of food served here is hot and cold meals and snacks.
  • Takeaway cups are available.
  • Adapted cups are not available.
  • Adapted cutlery is not available.
  • Drinking straws are available.
  • This area does not play background music.
  • There is not a hearing assistance system.
• Service Counter(s) View
  • The height of the counter is 86cm.
  • There is a moveable card machine available for payment.
• Tables and Seating View
  • There is ample room for a wheelchair user to manoeuvre.
  • The majority of tables are accessible to wheelchair users.
  • The standard height for the underside of dining tables is 73cm.
  • No tables are permanently fixed.
  • No chairs are permanently fixed.
  • Some chairs have armrests on both sides.
  • There are also long tables and bench seats.
  • The type of flooring in this area is vinyl and tiles.
  • There is some flooring which includes patterns or colours which could be confusing or look like steps or holes to some people.
  • The lighting levels are good.

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Other Floors

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• Stairs View
  • Stairs can be used to access other floors.
  • The stairs are located in front of you after entering.
  • The stairs are approximately 10m from the main entrance.
  • The stairs are clearly visible from the entrance.
  • There are manual, heavy, single doors to enter and exit the stairwell on all floors.
  • The floors which are accessible by the stairs are G, 1, 2.
  • There are 15+ steps between floors.
  • The height of the step(s) is/are not between the recommended 15cm and 18cm.
  • The height of the step(s) is/are 18cm.
  • The depth of the step(s) is/are not between the recommended 30cm and 45cm.
  • The depth of the steps is 26cm.
  • The steps are clearly marked.
  • There is a/are handrail(s) at the step(s).
  • The steps have a handrail on both sides.
  • Handrails are at the recommended height (90cm-100cm).
  • Handrails do cover the flight of stairs throughout its length.
  • Handrails are easy to grip.
  • Handrails do extend horizontally beyond the first and last steps.
  • There is a landing.
  • Clear signs indicating the facilities on each floor are provided on landings.
  • The lighting levels at the steps are good.

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Lift

• The lift is located in front of you on entrance.
• The lift is clearly visible from the entrance.
• The lift is approximately 6m (6yd 1ft) from the main entrance.
• The lift is a standard lift.
• The floors which are accessible by this lift are G, 1, 2.
• The weight limit for the lift is 1000kg.
• Clear signs indicating the facilities on each floor are provided on lift lobby landings.
• There is a clear level manoeuvring space of 150cm × 150cm in front of the lift.
• Lift doors do contrast visually with lift lobby walls.
• The external controls for the lift are within 90cm - 110cm from the floor.
• The visual contrast between the external lift controls and the control plate is low.
• The visual contrast between the external lift control plate and the wall is high.
• The clear door width is 110cm (3ft 7in).
• The dimensions of the lift are 110cm x 153cm (3ft 7in x 5ft).
• There are not separate entry and exit doors in the lift.
• There is a mirror to aid reversing out of the lift.
• There is a list of floor services available within the lift.
• The lift does have a visual floor indicator.
• The lift does have an audible announcer.
• The internal controls for the lift are not within 90cm - 120cm from the floor.
• The highest control is 125cm from the floor.
• There is not a hearing loop system.
• The lift does have Braille markings.
• The lift does have tactile markings.
• The lighting levels in the lift are good.

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Toilet with Adaptations (Ground Floor - Shared - Right Hand Transfer)

• There is an/are accessible toilet(s) available.

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• Location and Access View
  • This accessible toilet is located along the corridor to your right on entering via the main entrance.
  • This accessible toilet is approximately 15m (16yd 1ft) from the main entrance.
  • There is step-free access into the accessible toilet.
  • This is a shared toilet.
  • A key is not required for the accessible toilet.
  • There is pictorial signage on or near the toilet door.
  • The visual contrast between the external door and wall is low.
  • The door opens outwards.
  • The door is heavy.
  • The door is locked by a twist lock.
  • The width of the accessible toilet opening is 88cm (2ft 11in).
  • The contrast between the internal door and wall is low.
  • The door has a horizontal grab rail.
  • The visual contrast between the horizontal grab rail and internal door is low.
• Toilet Features View
  • The dimensions of the accessible toilet are 184cm x 205cm (6ft x 6ft 9in).
  • The accessible toilet does not have an unobstructed minimum turning space of 150cm x 150cm.
  • The height of the light switch/pull cord is 105cm from floor level.
  • The lighting levels are good.
  • There is a lateral transfer space.
  • As you face the toilet pan the transfer space is on the right.
  • The lateral transfer space is 110cm (3ft 7in).
  • The transfer space is obstructed by a female sanitary bin.
  • There is a flush on the transfer side.
  • There is not a spatula type lever flush.
  • There is a lever flush.
  • There is a dropdown rail on the transfer side.
  • The contrast between the dropdown rail(s) and wall is low.
  • There is a/are wall-mounted grab rail(s) available.
  • As you face the toilet the wall-mounted grab rail(s) is/are on both sides.
  • There is a vertical wall-mounted grab rail on the transfer side.
  • There is a horizontal wall-mounted grab rail on the opposite side of the seat to the transfer space.
  • The contrast between the wall-mounted grab rail(s) and wall is low.
  • The contrast between the walls and floor is high.
  • There is an emergency alarm.
  • The emergency pull cord alarm is fully functional.
  • There is a red flashing fire alarm beacon within the toilet.
  • Disposal facilities are available in the toilet.
  • There is a/are female sanitary and wall recess bin disposal units.
  • There is not a/are not coat hook(s).
• Additional Fixtures View
  • There is a mirror.
  • The mirror is not placed at a lower level or at an angle for ease of use.
  • There is not a shelf within the accessible toilet.
  • The toilet has a fixed horizontal rail without a padded backrest.
  • The height of the toilet seat above floor level is 48cm (1ft 7in).
  • The toilet seat visual contrast is high.
  • There is a toilet roll holder.
  • The toilet roll holder can be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The toilet roll holder is not placed higher than 100cm (3ft 3in).
  • The height of the toilet roll holder is 92cm (3ft).
  • The contrast between the toilet roll holder and the wall is high.
  • There is a wash basin.
  • The wash basin and tap(s) can be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The wash basin is not placed higher than 74cm (2ft 5in).
  • The height of the wash basin is 72cm (2ft 4in).
  • There is a vertical wall-mounted grab rail on the right hand side of the wash basin.
  • The contrast between the wash basin wall-mounted grab rail(s) and wall is low.
  • The wash basin tap type is lever mixer.
  • There is a wall fixed soap dispenser.
  • The soap dispenser cannot be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The height of the soap dispenser is 103cm.
  • There is a towel dispenser.
  • The towel dispenser cannot be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The towel dispenser is not placed higher than 100cm (3ft 3in).
  • The height of the towel dispenser is 98cm (3ft 3in).
  • The visual contrast between the towel dispenser and the wall is high.
  • There is not a hand dryer.

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Toilet with Adaptations (First Floor - Shared - Right Hand Transfer)

• There is an/are accessible toilet(s) available.

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• Location and Access View
  • This accessible toilet is located to your left on exiting the lift on the first floor.
  • This accessible toilet is approximately 5m (5yd 1ft) from the main lift.
  • There is step-free access into the accessible toilet.
  • This is a shared toilet.
  • A key is not required for the accessible toilet.
  • There is pictorial signage on or near the toilet door.
  • The visual contrast between the external door and wall is high.
  • The door opens outwards.
  • The door is heavy.
  • The door is locked by a twist lock.
  • The width of the accessible toilet opening is 86cm (2ft 10in).
  • The contrast between the internal door and wall is high.
  • The door has a horizontal grab rail.
  • The visual contrast between the horizontal grab rail and internal door is low.
• Toilet Features View
  • The dimensions of the accessible toilet are 180cm x 205cm (5ft 11in x 6ft 9in).
  • The accessible toilet does not have an unobstructed minimum turning space of 150cm x 150cm.
  • The lighting levels are good.
  • There is a lateral transfer space.
  • As you face the toilet pan the transfer space is on the right.
  • The lateral transfer space is 120cm (3ft 11in).
  • The transfer space is obstructed by a female sanitary bin.
  • There is a flush on the transfer side.
  • There is not a spatula type lever flush.
  • There is a lever flush.
  • There is a dropdown rail on the transfer side.
  • The contrast between the dropdown rail(s) and wall is low.
  • There is a/are wall-mounted grab rail(s) available.
  • As you face the toilet the wall-mounted grab rail(s) is/are on both sides.
  • There is a vertical wall-mounted grab rail on the transfer side.
  • There is a horizontal wall-mounted grab rail on the opposite side of the seat to the transfer space.
  • The contrast between the wall-mounted grab rail(s) and wall is low.
  • The contrast between the walls and floor is high.
  • There is an emergency alarm.
  • The emergency pull cord alarm was out of reach (higher than 10cm (4") from floor) when surveyed.
  • There is not a red flashing fire alarm beacon within the toilet.
  • Disposal facilities are available in the toilet.
  • There is a/are female sanitary and wall recess bin disposal units.
  • There is not a/are not coat hook(s).
• Additional Fixtures View
  • There is a mirror.
  • The mirror is not placed at a lower level or at an angle for ease of use.
  • There is not a shelf within the accessible toilet.
  • There is a lid attached to the toilet seat.
  • The height of the toilet seat above floor level is 48cm (1ft 7in).
  • The toilet seat visual contrast is low.
  • There is a toilet roll holder.
  • The toilet roll holder can be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The toilet roll holder is not placed higher than 100cm (3ft 3in).
  • The height of the toilet roll holder is 92cm (3ft).
  • The contrast between the toilet roll holder and the wall is high.
  • There is a wash basin.
  • The wash basin and tap(s) can be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The wash basin is not placed higher than 74cm (2ft 5in).
  • The height of the wash basin is 72cm (2ft 4in).
  • There is a vertical wall-mounted grab rail on the right hand side of the wash basin.
  • The contrast between the wash basin wall-mounted grab rail(s) and wall is low.
  • The wash basin tap type is lever mixer.
  • There is a wall fixed soap dispenser.
  • The soap dispenser can be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The height of the soap dispenser is 98cm.
  • There is a towel dispenser.
  • The towel dispenser cannot be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The towel dispenser is not placed higher than 100cm (3ft 3in).
  • The height of the towel dispenser is 92cm (3ft).
  • The visual contrast between the towel dispenser and the wall is high.
  • There is not a hand dryer.

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Toilet with Adaptations (Second Floor - Shared - Right Hand Transfer)

• There is an/are accessible toilet(s) available.

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• Location and Access View
  • This accessible toilet is located to your left on exiting the lift on the second floor.
  • This accessible toilet is approximately 5m (5yd 1ft) from the lift.
  • There is step-free access into the accessible toilet, via lift.
  • This is a shared toilet.
  • A key is not required for the accessible toilet.
  • There is pictorial signage on or near the toilet door.
  • The visual contrast between the external door and wall is low.
  • The door opens outwards.
  • The door is heavy.
  • The door is locked by a twist lock.
  • The width of the accessible toilet opening is 86cm (2ft 10in).
  • The contrast between the internal door and wall is high.
  • The door has a horizontal grab rail.
  • The visual contrast between the horizontal grab rail and internal door is low.
• Toilet Features View
  • The dimensions of the accessible toilet are 186cm x 205cm (6ft 1in x 6ft 9in).
  • The accessible toilet does not have an unobstructed minimum turning space of 150cm x 150cm.
  • The height of the light switch/pull cord is 114cm from floor level.
  • The lighting levels are good.
  • There is a lateral transfer space.
  • As you face the toilet pan the transfer space is on both sides.
  • The lateral transfer space is 120cm (3ft 11in).
  • The transfer space is obstructed by a female sanitary bin.
  • There is a flush on the transfer side.
  • There is not a spatula type lever flush.
  • There is a lever flush.
  • There is a dropdown rail on the transfer side.
  • The contrast between the dropdown rail(s) and wall is low.
  • There is a/are wall-mounted grab rail(s) available.
  • As you face the toilet the wall-mounted grab rail(s) is/are on both sides.
  • There is a vertical wall-mounted grab rail on the transfer side.
  • There is a horizontal wall-mounted grab rail on the opposite side of the seat to the transfer space.
  • The contrast between the wall-mounted grab rail(s) and wall is low.
  • The contrast between the walls and floor is high.
  • There is an emergency alarm.
  • The emergency pull cord alarm is fully functional.
  • The emergency pull cord alarm was out of reach (higher than 10cm (4") from floor) when surveyed.
  • There is not a red flashing fire alarm beacon within the toilet.
  • Disposal facilities are available in the toilet.
  • There is a/are female sanitary disposal units.
  • There is not a/are not coat hook(s).
• Additional Fixtures View
  • There is a mirror.
  • The mirror is placed at a lower level or at an angle for ease of use.
  • There is not a shelf within the accessible toilet.
  • The toilet has a fixed horizontal rail without a padded backrest.
  • The height of the toilet seat above floor level is 48cm (1ft 7in).
  • The toilet seat visual contrast is high.
  • There is a toilet roll holder.
  • The toilet roll holder can be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The toilet roll holder is not placed higher than 100cm (3ft 3in).
  • The height of the toilet roll holder is 92cm (3ft).
  • The contrast between the toilet roll holder and the wall is high.
  • There is a wash basin.
  • The wash basin and tap(s) can be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The wash basin is not placed higher than 74cm (2ft 5in).
  • The height of the wash basin is 74cm (2ft 5in).
  • There is a vertical wall-mounted grab rail on the right hand side of the wash basin.
  • The contrast between the wash basin wall-mounted grab rail(s) and wall is low.
  • The wash basin tap type is lever mixer.
  • There is a wall fixed soap dispenser.
  • The soap dispenser can be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The height of the soap dispenser is 100cm.
  • There is a towel dispenser.
  • The towel dispenser cannot be reached from seated on the toilet.
  • The towel dispenser is not placed higher than 100cm (3ft 3in).
  • The height of the towel dispenser is 94cm (3ft 1in).
  • The visual contrast between the towel dispenser and the wall is high.
  • There is not a hand dryer.

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Standard Toilet(s)

• Standard toilet facilities are available.

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• Toilet Facilities View
  • The female toilet is located along the corridor to your right on entering via the main entrance.
  • There is step-free access into the toilet(s).
  • The standard toilet(s) is/are approximately 10m from the main entrance.
  • The visual contrast between the external toilet door(s) and wall(s) is low.
  • There is pictorial signage on or near the toilet door.
  • An ambulant toilet cubicle is not available.
  • The height of the wash basin(s) is 87cm.
  • The wash basin(s) tap type is lever mixer.
  • Lighting levels are good.
• Toilet Facilities 2 View
  • The shared toilet is located along the corridor to your right on entering via the main entrance.
  • There is step-free access into the toilet(s).
  • The visual contrast between the external toilet door(s) and wall(s) is high.
  • There is pictorial signage on or near the toilet door.
  • An ambulant toilet cubicle is not available.
  • The height of the wash basin(s) is 90cm.
  • The wash basin(s) tap type is lever mixer.
  • Lighting levels are good.